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will look like when these conversations between the president and speaker john boehner are done? what will look like when they are done? >> i think we will have slightly higher marginal tax rates on some -- at least one high income tax bracket and i think there will be a variety of tax and exclusions and deductions that are scaled back modestly and that's about it. >> it scaled-back means capt. someone, i agree completely. ." >> i think we will see some of those things rolled back. i think the top rate will be in between 39 and 45%. >> we have some common ground among our economists where we will end up. thank you for joining us and thank you all. i appreciate the pedersen foundation to participate. >> as i have contemplated how the burlington -- the meeting to close, i remember a nobel prize winner at the university of chicago where it was presumably educated used to say if you have no alternative, you have no problem. i thought about the alternative of delivering what i'm sure you would love to hear -- a 30- minute lecture or simply saying thank you very much. deeply appreciate the
when the president says he wants to see higher tax rates. john boehner says clearly not. >> it is a lot easier to say at this level of generality. it becomes harder to enacted. the number of times of with the head of the cbo, senator so and so would call me up and say i want to talk about tax reform and i would walk in and the head is one talking point which is brought in the base and lower the rate. what are you willing to scale back? mortgage interest, cannot touch that. charitable, cannot touch that. you go down the list. one of the reasons of these new ideas being attractive is a are obscuring what has to be cut back. >> there is still a hard choice there. >> we are not saying we are going to cut out your ability to deduct your mortgage but i will get to keep my ability to deduct my local tax. everything goes into a pot. everybody gets to keep their deductions but you cannot be too greedy about it. it does have to limit the amount they can benefit from it. >> that is the selling point. >> the notion here, can you do this and have the only effect of the wealthiest americans -- affect
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